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	<title>Comments on: Startups, Ignore Us Bloggers and Focus On The Numbers</title>
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		<title>By: layeredbyte</title>
		<link>http://layeredbyte.com/2010/01/25/startups-ignore-us-bloggers-and-focus-on-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>layeredbyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never said Jason specifically.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Internet in general. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keep in mind everyone, the focus of this post was for startups to stand their ground when releasing new products. Next time I won&#039;t use such a fresh debate as an example nor will two paragraphs of the post focus on it. Just seemed to be something everyone could relate to atm.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lesson learned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never said Jason specifically.</p>
<p>Internet in general. </p>
<p>Keep in mind everyone, the focus of this post was for startups to stand their ground when releasing new products. Next time I won&#39;t use such a fresh debate as an example nor will two paragraphs of the post focus on it. Just seemed to be something everyone could relate to atm.</p>
<p>Lesson learned.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesFuller</title>
		<link>http://layeredbyte.com/2010/01/25/startups-ignore-us-bloggers-and-focus-on-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesFuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex, I didn&#039;t say that it doesn&#039;t make sense, I was just pointing out various errors in the post. I could also go further than what I did, because it&#039;s an error to say Jason expects everything on the web for free, he doesn&#039;t if you read anything he&#039;s written or listened to nearly anything he&#039;s done over the past few years. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And the more I&#039;ve looked into it, what he&#039;s asking for is to lighten up on the small businesses who might not be able to reasonably afford the charges for the service; but would otherwise have a hard time getting an advertiser if they&#039;re data isn&#039;t correct. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From what I&#039;ve read on multiple sources, your count only goes one direction if you pay, and that is up, so this is encourages a pay to play market that would be unfair to smaller startups. comScore has plenty of other ways they could monetize such data without forcing the costs onto the site owners.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, just a side note, which I brought up with Holden earlier, just a few days ago, he was asking startups to listen to bloggers, and now he&#039;s telling them the to do the exact opposite. Self-contradiction in a short period of time is never good. Just look at the front page of Layered Byte for evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, I didn&#39;t say that it doesn&#39;t make sense, I was just pointing out various errors in the post. I could also go further than what I did, because it&#39;s an error to say Jason expects everything on the web for free, he doesn&#39;t if you read anything he&#39;s written or listened to nearly anything he&#39;s done over the past few years. </p>
<p>And the more I&#39;ve looked into it, what he&#39;s asking for is to lighten up on the small businesses who might not be able to reasonably afford the charges for the service; but would otherwise have a hard time getting an advertiser if they&#39;re data isn&#39;t correct. </p>
<p>From what I&#39;ve read on multiple sources, your count only goes one direction if you pay, and that is up, so this is encourages a pay to play market that would be unfair to smaller startups. comScore has plenty of other ways they could monetize such data without forcing the costs onto the site owners.</p>
<p>Also, just a side note, which I brought up with Holden earlier, just a few days ago, he was asking startups to listen to bloggers, and now he&#39;s telling them the to do the exact opposite. Self-contradiction in a short period of time is never good. Just look at the front page of Layered Byte for evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Wilhelm</title>
		<link>http://layeredbyte.com/2010/01/25/startups-ignore-us-bloggers-and-focus-on-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Wilhelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 00:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>W/E as a pro blogger a lot of this made sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W/E as a pro blogger a lot of this made sense.</p>
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		<title>By: layeredbyte</title>
		<link>http://layeredbyte.com/2010/01/25/startups-ignore-us-bloggers-and-focus-on-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>layeredbyte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 16:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Striking &quot;Jason has a reason to bitch&quot; bit, all fair points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Striking &#8220;Jason has a reason to bitch&#8221; bit, all fair points.</p>
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		<title>By: JamesFuller</title>
		<link>http://layeredbyte.com/2010/01/25/startups-ignore-us-bloggers-and-focus-on-the-numbers/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>JamesFuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FACT: Jason isn&#039;t just a blogger, he is currently the CEO of Mahalo, which is still a start-up. So he has reason to bitch about it. Having said that, I can&#039;t side with either of them, as I&#039;ve avoided most of the stories on the up-roar.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for Google and Facebook, Google probably has numbers to back up their changes, but I&#039;d bet Facebook has learned that even when they&#039;re arrogant and piss everyone off, people still need the site for what they do, so they&#039;ll look over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FACT: Jason isn&#39;t just a blogger, he is currently the CEO of Mahalo, which is still a start-up. So he has reason to bitch about it. Having said that, I can&#39;t side with either of them, as I&#39;ve avoided most of the stories on the up-roar.</p>
<p>As for Google and Facebook, Google probably has numbers to back up their changes, but I&#39;d bet Facebook has learned that even when they&#39;re arrogant and piss everyone off, people still need the site for what they do, so they&#39;ll look over it.</p>
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